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Torchwood DVD commentaries
Oh, it took some time, but I finally managed to watch all the episodes with their audio commentaries. I love my DVD box. :)
I have to admit that most of the comments were quite boring especially Chibnall. But there were still some quite interesting pieces of information. Made some notes if anyone is interested. Possible spoilers for season 1 and some hints for season 2 inside!


Everything Changes
- Episode 1 was meant to start with Jack/Gwen on the Millennium Centre with the entire following episode as a flashback.
- The scene with the murder victim in the alley being brought back to life was the first scene Russel imagined and talked about with Julie on the set of Casanova
- Gwen is going to marry in season 2. RTD said it himself.
- Julie wants PC Andy and Yvonne (that woman who looked up Captain Jack for Gwen) back for more episodes.

Day One
- John Barrowman owns a pair of (ironed!) Transformers pyjamas
- He also makes a habit of stuffing food into his face when the team's eating, which is about the worst thing for an actor when scenes are done several times
- John stumbled in the dent where the Security Door closes and sprained his ankle in the scene where Carys flees from the Hub

Ghost Machine
- Burn's child was born on the day they filmed the opening sequence
- The rain machine is more or less the 7th cast member. It's there in most of the scenes
- John wasn't meant to drive the SUV but also pursue on foot, but as he sprained his ankle he wasn't allowed to run
- Burn still believes Owen has a good heart but wishes he'd shut up sometimes

Cyberwoman
- Everything they told Gareth from the start was that he had a Cyber girlfriend in the basement, the rest was a surprise, even for him
- Lisa planned her moves all along, building strength and waiting. Chibnall admits he should've mentioned that
- The first Jack/Ianto brawl in the basement ruined a door (John's backside broke the wood). Fortunately it wasn't a very expensive one
- Chibnall wrote this script immediately before his wife went into labour and continued 6 hours after the child was born. I can see why he calls this his "Year of Hell"
- Lisa being able to fire electro shocks was a last-minute explanation as to why Jack doesn't simply shoot her. Everyone forgot he still had his gun
- A Tosh/Ianto scene where Tosh brings Ianto coffee (intended as the last scene) was cut because the scene in the Hub was so powerful

Small Worlds
- John had terrible fun with the word fairy. They have no idea why ;)
- Moses the cat is stolen from 'Alien'
- John loves driving the SUV. The rest of them fears for their lives in it
- The writers had never heard of the Old School Mara
- Flashback to Lahore originally included Jack with a mustache. They didn't do because they feared John would laugh for weeks *g*
- Chris Chibnall is quite critical about his own scripts, which is quite nice

Countrycide
- There was a discussion if the girl in the car had a baseball bat or a cricket bat, and if the jacket on the street should have a football or a clown's mask as 'head'
- They promise us more 'Owen as a doctor' in season 2
- Absolutely gruesome sets, Gareth's horror when he's looking into the fridge wasn't an act
- John did a Welsh accent for one scene. I'd love to hear that.
- Jack's skills as a torturer might be a hint for things to come in season 2
- Originally Ianto should've hung upside down in the cannibal hut
- The team stayed in 'Torchwood House' where Who filmed 'Tooth&Claw' during this

Greeks bearing Gifts
- The first scenes were shot on the day England was kicked out of the World Cup
- Originally the pendant was meant to glow, but then that would've made the thing obviously alien
- A female love interest for Tosh wasn't the writer's idea but was edited in when it was reviewed
- The alternative storyline would've been a deposed alien king being interrogated by Torchwood... season 3? *g*
- During the scene in the shopping mile people actually came up to Naoko and asked her if she was all right
- Tosh is the only character (besides Owen) that has an entire 'house' as a set. They never meant it to be so big, though

They Keep Killing Suzie
- The design of the cells is stolen from Silence of the Lambs
- Originally Suzie's body was meant to be dumped into the Bay. The morgue set was invented to explain how they could bring her back for this
- They had to reinforce the cell walls because they feared the extra would break out
- The victim photographs are about the entire art department holding their face over a photocopier when they were told they needed more pictures quickly
- The interrogation room is actually one of their standard sets. They just never use it
- "Torchwood is the one job you can never quit" hinted at as theme for season 2
- Chibnall: "Gwen/Jack is a love story complicated by 17 different things". More to come in season 2
- The approaching ferry is CGI
- No answer for what the stopwatch means, the feeling of the 'wrong foot' was actually intended.

Random Shoes
- They edited Eugene's footsteps and shadows out to make him seem more ghost-like
- When Eugene puts his hand through Gwen he's actually putting his hand through a mannequin. No CGI needed
- 34 Pounds for Eugene's overdue DVDs, 34 Pounds his friends wanted to spend for the eye. Vague hints probably no one spotted.
- Cuts included Eugene yelling "I can do anything!" from a roof and someone stating "I smell bananas," referring to the milkshake Eugene drank.
- The flashback scene where Eugene confides to his friends that he thinks the alien wants its eye back was done in front of the Torchwood production office

Out of Time
- The supermarket is also Eve's supermarket
- 14 takes on naked Rhys, just beause they liked him naked (apart from a flesh coloured pouch) ^^
- It was Gareth's idea to hand Jack his coat when he leaves hurriedly
- Troughton agrees that Jack is Jesus *g*
- Eve thinks that Abaddon - the Angel of Death - is up against Jack, the Angel of Life
- Last direction for the suicide scene: "Captain Jack stares into the Abyss"

Combat
- They pondered for about 10 seconds if the dead man should have the Doctor Who theme as his ringtone instead of the Crazy Frog
- The name 'Mark Lynch' is an hommage to David Lynch, Mark Frost and Twin Peaks

Captain Jack Harkness
- John Barrowman is the biggest fanboy of us all. Period.
- The dance hall is in fact a disused hotel
- They had to cut some dance scenes because the dancers were too good
- Tosh's equation was done by a mathematician. It seems to be genuine/correct concerning Time Rifts
- Bilis Manger is not an anagram. Only maybe for 'Grim Lesbian'. John just calls him 'Evil Gay'
- John Barrowman claims to know Jack's real name... season 2?
- The missing piece of the Rift machine is actually an ash tray
- False blood is biodegradable, edible and possibly tastes sweet
- Jack's safe is an hommage to the Ghostbuster's Machine
- There was an American flag in that dance hall, but Barrowman nitpicked about the 50 stars being anachronistic, so they took it down
- The Jack/Jack kiss on screen was the actor's first kiss to make it look real
- The flying pigeons mirroring on Gwen's windscreen were ther by pure chance

End of Days
- John watched the helicopter shoots from his own balcony. And waved madly. *g*
- The TV/PC screens are remote controlled. They never show what they're supposed to show, but only Naoko is annoyed by that
- Gareth dribbles in one scene, much to John's amusement. That's HD for you
- John thinks Naoko looks hot in the hazmat suit
- They used the same hospital for 'Empty Child'. It seems to be haunted.
- The hazmat suits are real. I shudder when I think about how much they cost
- Naoko did all the Japanese translations
- People always wanted to come into the clock shop during shooting because they thought it was real
- In the original draft of the script Rhys actually dies but the crew felt it was too harsh, ruining too many possible future storylines for Gwen
- Gwen originally takes Rhys to a hotel to keep him safe, but because of the tight schedule and the costy they did it in the Hub
- The Mill called Abbadon 'Bob', the rest of the cast settled for Abbageddon, Abbageddomdon or something similar




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[info]crabby_lioness
2007-11-30 08:06 pm UTC (link)
Thank you!

John Barrowman is the biggest fanboy of us all. Period.

This surprises no one.

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[info]dune_drd
2007-11-30 11:03 pm UTC (link)
It's scary what he spots and what he interprets into it ^^

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[info]claudee
2007-11-30 11:16 pm UTC (link)
- Episode 1 was meant to start with Jack/Gwen on the Millennium Centre with the entire following episode as a flashback.

Good to know it didn't.

Gwen is going to marry in season 2. RTD said it himself.

Her BF?!?

The Jack/Jack kiss on screen was the actor's first kiss to make it look real

They did a good job, didn't they?

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[info]dune_drd
2007-12-01 06:59 pm UTC (link)
He says he marries, but Julie Gardner saves it by saying "But who!?". So no real spoilers here. ^^

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[info]pairatime
2007-12-01 02:16 am UTC (link)
cool, now for it to come out over here in the US.

- John Barrowman is the biggest fanboy of us all. Period.
That is just so cool

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[info]section8grl
2007-12-01 07:03 pm UTC (link)
Gwen/Jack is a love story complicated by 17 different things.

She's getting married and he's shagging the receptionist. That counts for two.

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[info]irener
2007-12-01 07:19 pm UTC (link)
5 star comment! *claps*

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[info]badfalcon
2007-12-01 07:27 pm UTC (link)
She's also shagging Owen - does that make a third complication?

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[info]love_jackianto
2007-12-01 07:39 pm UTC (link)
'Gwen/Jack is a love story complicated by 17 different things.' I bet 10 of those things are on Inato's stopwatch list.

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[info]angelofmadness7
2007-12-01 09:28 pm UTC (link)
I heard that >3

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[info]ladykoori
2007-12-01 07:44 pm UTC (link)
- There was an American flag in that dance hall, but Barrowman nitpicked about the 50 stars being anachronistic, so they took it down

The props people/set dressers don't know how to use Google or Wiki.......I'm ashamed.

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[info]msp_hacker
2007-12-02 02:16 am UTC (link)
I'm more surprised that they had a 50 state flag instead of a 48, as there are many places that fly a 48 star flag as it's almost impossible to tell when it's flying, and when it's easier to store as you don't have to treat it as respectfully as the 50 state flag.

But, yeah, with it draped like that on the wall, it really needs to be a 48 'cause you can see the stars clearly. ( Which they did, I assume, because the stars of the flag are straight up and down, and not staggered. )

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[info]adafrog
2007-12-01 08:00 pm UTC (link)
Good for John for noticing the US flag.

Abbageddon cracks me up.

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Re: Episode 112 and American Flag
[info]the_dark_side
2007-12-01 08:16 pm UTC (link)
the flag didn't have 50 stars back then. I think it was 48 at that point, but I can't be entirely certain.

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Re: Episode 112 and American Flag
[info]msp_hacker
2007-12-02 02:01 am UTC (link)
In 1941, there were 48 states. The last two, Alaska and Hawaii, officially joined the union in 1959.

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[info]the_dark_side
2007-12-01 08:14 pm UTC (link)
LMAO...I can't WAIT to get my DVD set. hurry up, January!

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[info]tigercheetah
2007-12-01 08:43 pm UTC (link)
"""Gwen/Jack is a love story complicated by 17 different things". More to come in season 2"""

So Jack and Gwen are destined to be together no matter what? Just great, talk about predictable!!

Many thanks for this, even though I've already listened to half the commentaries myself. It's a shame Naoki didn't get to do Greeks Bearing Gifts, as these commentaries really do make you feel like you're sitting next to the actors.

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[info]ayankha
2007-12-01 09:26 pm UTC (link)
thanks for posting this... i now have one month to get a job and earn enough money to by my own box set.... mer!!

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[info]angelofmadness7
2007-12-01 09:29 pm UTC (link)
I have the boxset but can't be bothered doing half the stuff on it XDDD I be lazy
So thanks for posting it X3

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[info]clancy_s
2007-12-01 09:42 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the tidbits!

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[info]mukhy0
2007-12-01 10:59 pm UTC (link)
Thank you so much for the interesting tidbits. I'm dying to get my hands on the box set, but I'll have to wait until January. Is there a listing somewhere where I can find who does the commentary for each episode? Or did the entire cast do the commentary for all the episodes?

All these "More to come in season 2" are driving me craaaazy!

Edited at 2007-12-01 10:59 pm UTC

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[info]dune_drd
2007-12-02 10:08 pm UTC (link)
3 persons do the commentary on one episode, mostly the writer and one of the actors are among those. I don't have a list here, I think I saw one online, though

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[info]theohsocurlyone
2007-12-01 11:07 pm UTC (link)
Burn's child was born on the day they filmed the opening sequence.

Oh, that's so lovely!

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[info]dune_drd
2007-12-02 10:07 pm UTC (link)
I think those are the days he looked extremely unhealthily tired ;)

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[info]bunnii0
2007-12-02 12:17 am UTC (link)
Thankyou for these. :)

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[info]snoopygal327
2007-12-02 03:59 am UTC (link)
Ooooh thanks so much for this! Now I can't wait until January!

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[info]jaxie12
2007-12-02 09:26 am UTC (link)
Oh I wonder if you could do me a favour and list who does a commentary for which episode? Or is this already listed on the net somewhere that I don't know about? I've searched and searched and alas no luck....except for this which is awesome. thanks.

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[info]samantharichter
2007-12-02 01:35 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the recap!! I'm sooo looking forward to getting the boxed set. Now, if Uni would finally send me the money...

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[info]ghostpaw
2007-12-02 02:54 pm UTC (link)
Burn still believes Owen has a good heart but wishes he'd shut up sometimes
Yeah, I think we could all agree with that...

Gareth's horror when he's looking into the fridge wasn't an act
Aaaawwwwbless! And on a similar note:
Originally Ianto should've hung upside down in the cannibal hut
'Cus the "total pervert" wing of the fangirls didn't have enough to give them bad and wrong thoughts about with that ep >;)

No answer for what the stopwatch means, the feeling of the 'wrong foot' was actually intended.
Huh, so my suspicion that it was a ill though out chat-up line and they were both bluffing like mad is confirmed.

Troughton agrees that Jack is Jesus
He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

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[info]karaokegal
2007-12-03 07:47 pm UTC (link)
- Chibnall: "Gwen/Jack is a love story complicated by 17 different things". More to come in season 2


Verrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyy interesting. Although possibly hype for the fan-base. I live in House MD land, I know about having my ship jerked around.

I do love how defensive it seems to make certain people though because I'm EEEEEEEEEEVil.

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